Comments on: Largely Unemployable http://collegewebguy.com/2009/01/22/largely-unemployable/ He’s employed at a university. He calls himself a web designer. These are his brain droppings. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 04:19:18 +0000 hourly 1 By: Drew http://collegewebguy.com/2009/01/22/largely-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-1003 Drew Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:20:40 +0000 http://collegewebguy.com/?p=345#comment-1003 Ok, now I've got <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=andy+budd&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">Andy Budd</a> commenting on my blog. I'm kind've a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2S_Is8eMU" rel="nofollow">big deal</a> now. Ok, now I’ve got Andy Budd commenting on my blog. I’m kind’ve a big deal now.

]]> By: Andy Budd http://collegewebguy.com/2009/01/22/largely-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-1002 Andy Budd Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:17:09 +0000 http://collegewebguy.com/?p=345#comment-1002 My problem with flash isn't to do with the tool itself or the fact that it teaches you both design and Dev skills. Infact I believe you need to understand the fundmental nature and technology of the web to be a truely great designer. My problem is that flash is an extrewmly easy tool to learn but a difficault tool to master, and the demand for flash skills are much lower than schools over reliance on the tool would suggest. If you come out of a 3 year course thinking your remedial flash animation skills are going to get you a job as a web designer you're sadly mistaken. You need to learn fundimental design and Dev skills and then get at least 6 months real commercial experience first. My problem with flash isn’t to do with the tool itself or the fact that it teaches you both design and Dev skills. Infact I believe you need to understand the fundmental nature and technology of the web to be a truely great designer. My problem is that flash is an extrewmly easy tool to learn but a difficault tool to master, and the demand for flash skills are much lower than schools over reliance on the tool would suggest. If you come out of a 3 year course thinking your remedial flash animation skills are going to get you a job as a web designer you’re sadly mistaken. You need to learn fundimental design and Dev skills and then get at least 6 months real commercial experience first.

]]> By: Ron http://collegewebguy.com/2009/01/22/largely-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-998 Ron Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:19:00 +0000 http://collegewebguy.com/?p=345#comment-998 The only thing about that report that I'm saddened by is how many of the "right" people won't see it. I do think it was an important exercise in realizing how much schools are missing the boat on this. In my first job, I had this happened a lot. The student I ended up getting was self-taught and it made it easier to teach him tasks and to help him grow his skills, but not every place has the time for that. The only thing about that report that I’m saddened by is how many of the “right” people won’t see it. I do think it was an important exercise in realizing how much schools are missing the boat on this. In my first job, I had this happened a lot. The student I ended up getting was self-taught and it made it easier to teach him tasks and to help him grow his skills, but not every place has the time for that.

]]> By: James http://collegewebguy.com/2009/01/22/largely-unemployable/comment-page-1/#comment-996 James Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:50:43 +0000 http://collegewebguy.com/?p=345#comment-996 I agree with dropping flash from all curriculums... not only is it clearly the most unintuitive program ever made, it forces people to learn how to script code in a very ass backwards manner. There is no point teaching someone how to be both a developer and a designer. The quality of work suffers substantially. A graphic designer and a programmer are two entirely different disciplines. I will admit... you need both. But don't teach people to do it all by themselves when they get out there. jmo... I agree with dropping flash from all curriculums… not only is it clearly the most unintuitive program ever made, it forces people to learn how to script code in a very ass backwards manner.

There is no point teaching someone how to be both a developer and a designer. The quality of work suffers substantially.

A graphic designer and a programmer are two entirely different disciplines. I will admit… you need both. But don’t teach people to do it all by themselves when they get out there.

jmo…

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